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with that, i yield back the balance of my time and i request the ability to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: i yield two minutes to the quished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from washington state, mr. reicher. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. reichert: i thank the gentleman for yielding. we heard yesterday's announcement, unemployment eclipses 10%. yet today we're considering a health care bill that will cost more jobs and raise taxes on families, on small businesses, on seniors, and takes away freedom. this bill especially hurt ours seniors, our greatest generation, by cutting their benefits, raising their premiums, and on top of that, taxing wheelchairs, taxing pacemakers, taxing hearing aids. this bill is not right for
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america, it's not right for families, it's not right for small businesses and it's not right for seniors. we need real solutions. let's focus on reducing the costs, maybe, offer tax incentives, enact medical liability reform, allow people to buy insurance across state lines. these solutions bring lower costs and bring health care to those who really need it. mr. speaker, the most troubling aspect, though, of this bill is that it takes away freedom. and this freedom, mr. speaker, the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. the house will be in order. mr. reichert: mr. speaker, the most troubling aspect of this bill is that it takes away freedom. and this freedom came through great sacrifice. the sacrifice of men and women throughout history of this great nation so that we could choose and live a free life. this bill takes away that freedom, the freedom to choose the health care that's right for you and your family, this bill
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takes away that freedom requiring every american to purchase a government-approved health plan. pay a tax or even go to jail. this bill takes away that freedom. of patience to -- patients to consult with their doctors without government sbeerches and this takes away the freedom of seniors to choose their own health care plan. this is not only a job killing bill, mr. speaker, sad to say, this is a freedom killing bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan reserves his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd like to yield 90 seconds to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. pascrell, and thank him for great job that he's done for the committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for 90 seconds. mr. pascrell: mr. speaker, no one believes the loyal opposition that democrats don't
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care about seniors. need i provide a history lesson 101 here? today is when we must ask ourselves the real reason we came to congress. was it to fulfill the hopes of the people or take the path of least resistance? the easy thing would be to say the problem is too big. the interests are too aligned. and then maintain the status quo. the hard thing is to bring everybody together, make the compromises that need to be made, give the american people true health care reform that will carry our country through for generations. this is the same choice that was weighed before the members of the 89th congress when they voted on the creation of medicare and medicaid and where would we be today as a nation had those members simply succumbed to the difficulty of making real change? where would we be today? where would we be in mortality?
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where would we be in the seniors who were sick and poor at that time without those new programs? we're now 40th in the industrial nations in infant mortality. when will we wait to have our senses? we need this reform. let us not leave another generation to wonder what we could have been. let's pass historic legislation that provides the promise of affordable quality health care for every american today and the generations to come. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: i yield two minutes at this time to a distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from louisiana, dr. boustany. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from louisiana is recognized for two minutes. mr. boustany: thank you, mr. speaker. today we'll have a vote on a flawed massive and irresponsible health care takeover by
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government pushed by speaker pelosi and house democrats that will cost more than $1 trillion. this bill will increase health care costs for most americans, increase taxes while americans struggle to find work and hurt seniors' quality of care. mr. speaker, the -- as a heart surgeon i saw the amazing innovation in our system. in fact, in the early 1950's an american surgeon observing the death of a patient hopelessly observing the death of a patient from blood clots to the lungs was inspired and invented the first heart lung machine that made open heart surgery possible. many thousands of patients worldwide have benefited from this innovation, this innovation right here in the united states. innovation that will be stifled by the pelosi health care bill. there's another way. we can do better. house republicans have solutions that will lower costs by creating real choice in competition. we'll help those with pre-existing conditions to get meaningful health care coverage.
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we'll preserve u.s. leadership in medical innovations and education. and we'll reduce frivolous lawsuits in medicine that needlessly drive up the cost for families. as a heart surgeon, i know that we can achieve real health care reforms to bring down costs, but the democrats' current bill only lead to higher costs for millions of americans and destroy what's currently working in our system. there's a better way. there's a different way. there's a way to lower health care costs, help more people achieve a high quality doctor-patient relationship in this country and improve health care for all americans. vote down this bill and support the republican plan and yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from louisiana yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i thank you, sir. i now like to present to the body congressman davis of illinois for 90 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for 90 seconds.
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mr. davis: thank you, mr. speaker. passage of this bill will move us closer to the realization that all men, women and children in this country can have access to quality health care. it will reduce the waiting time in emergency rooms, shorten the length of time you have to wait to see a doctor, makes it possible for people to have health insurance who've never had any before in their lifetime. and to see a doctor on a regular basis. it recognizes the needs of people with disabilities, it seriously increases community health centers, protects disproportion teacher hospitals. for most health awareness and education but most importantly, it prolongs and enhances life as well as its quality. this is the most significant health legislation passed in this country since medicare and medicaid.
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residents of my district have been calling all day asking that i would vote for them, that i would vote for illinois, that i would vote for america. i'd tell them, yes, i will, because i believe that health care ought to be a right and not a privilege. i wanted a single payer system but i will vote for 3962 because it is good for illinois, it is good for me, it is good for you and it is good for america. and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: mr. speaker, i yield two minutes to the distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from nevada, mr. heller. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from nevada is recognized for two minutes. mr. heller: thank you, mr. speaker. and thank you to the ranking member.
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for your exceptional hard work in producing a republican alternative that does not raise taxes, raise people are combrums, increase our debt or increase health care costs. in a recent article, democratic leadership stated that getting votes today will be easier because democrats want to go home. mr. speaker, the pelosi health care bill will cost americans more than five million jobs. despite national unemployment at 10.3% and in my home state of nevada over 13% unemployment, we're moving forward with this bill. for the majority, this is fine, if members of congress get to go home. this legislation raises billions in new taxes on small businesses and increases health care premiums by $15,000 per family on average. as i said, as long as the majority gets to go home this doesn't matter. this bill cuts $500 billion from medicare, affecting more than 20,000 seniors in my districts, over 100,000 statewide, and also avoids meaningful medical liability reform. but the majority will support it because it get -- they get to go home.
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this bill's individual mandates will result in nine million americans paying a new tax or facing criminal penalties. these penalties include $250,000 fines and/or five years in jail for failure to pay the tax. however, this doesn't matter as long as the majority gets to go home today. mr. speaker, this bill lacks enforceable citizenship verification provisions. as many as 8.5 million illegal immigrants will be eligible for taxpayer subsidized health care under this legislation. of course if the majority gets to go home, it simply doesn't matter. at the height ofpy pock are asy is members are -- at the height of hypocrisy, member of congress are not forced to be on this. this hinges upon members of congress wanting to go home instead of passing legislation that will help the american people. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his time
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and has 11 minutes remange. the gentleman from new york is recognized and has 17 1/2 minutes remaining. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i'd like to present to this body, a hardworking member of the ways and means committee from the state of new york, mr. higgins, for 0 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for a minute and a half. mr. higgins: thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, speaker. the american health care industry is a $2.5 trillion industry. it represents 17% of the american economy as membered -- measured by the gross domestic product. yet our outcomes according to the world health organization are pathetically falling behind. we are 37th in overall quality, unacceptable in america. we are 41st in infant mortality. that means in 40 other countries, from birth to 1 year of age, kids live by a higher percentage than they do in the united states. unacceptable in america. we are dead last of any
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industrialized country in preventable deaths. unacceptable in a good and generous nation. this is a uniquely american problem with uniquely american solutions. we look to not for profit plans like the cleveland clinic, the mayo clinic, johns hopkins, where -- johns hopkins, early adapters of new innovation and they are producing the highest quality health care not only in the nation but throughout the world. at the lowest possible cost. that's the health care that i want for my family, that's the health care that i want for my community and that's the health care that i want for my nation. we've been debating this issue not for seven months but for seven decades. it's time for change. i understand that reform is tough. the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the older order. and only luke warm defenders and all those who would profit by
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the new order. on health care, most americans are rooting for the reformer. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: mr. speaker, at this time i yield two minutes to a distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from illinois, mr. roskam. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for two minutes. mr. roskam: i thank the gentleman for yielding and thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, if you're at home and you were sort of flipping channels between the football games and c-span and you flipped on and only heard the majority party you'd think, wow, what a great plan. i mean, really, you'd think, people are just going to fall all over themselves and all these adjectives and declaartive statements sound wonderful until you look inside that bill and you find handcuffs. now, i'm not talking about figuretive handcuffs, i'm talking about criminal penalties. criminal penalties that have been mentioned by the gentleman from texas, criminal penalties that have been mentioned time
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and again on this floor. we've heard from the best and the brightest all afternoon and not a one of them have answered why it is you have to criminalize people to coax them into a plan that's fabulous. it makes no sense. and this isn't my words, this is actually coming from the joint committee on taxation, a letter that was written ironically with chairman charlie rangel as the chairman of that committee, released 48 hours ago, that says, in fact, if you don't comply with the individual mandate, what happens to you? you can be subject to five years in prison and you can be subject to a quarter of a million dollars in fines. and the other side with all due respect, with all the adjectives and all the flourishing speech, have failed to answer that question. and i submit to you, if we listen today, if we listen to the remainder of this debate, they will be silent in terms of a good answer as to why it is you need to criminalize people to coax them into a plan.
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it's a failure and we ought not stand for it. the small businesses, the entrepreneurs and the self-employed that this would have an impact on, they say, look, you don't criminalize us, give us relief, let us purchase across state lines, not in the democrats' bill. give us real tort reform, real liability reform, not in the democrats' bill in any substantive way. let us purchase and work together to pool to lower costs down. the right to remain silent shouldn't be the word from the government. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois' time has expired. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. rangel: i'd like to yield 90 seconds to the gentleman from kentucky, mr. yarmuth. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized for 90 seconds. mr. yarmuth: the citizens of louisville, kentucky, sent me here to this body largely to
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help bring us to this moment. i was sent by a recent college graduate who had to give up coverage and couldn't get her own coverage to cover her life-long allergic condition. i was sent by the family of the 10-year-old boy who wrote me begging for help to help pay for the $50,000 they have to pay annually to care for their autistic brother. i was sent by the louisville woman whose insurance was dropped in the middle of her cancer treatment. i was sent by thousands of seniors struggling to pay their prescription drug costs. and i was sent by people like the local realtor who was trying to figure -- who is trying to figure out how to pay next year's insurance bill he just received with a 32% increase. today is the day those americans get the help they have been praying for. it is the day we take a giant step toward that more perfect union that we all seek.
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i am very proud to be a part of this day, this historic day. and i'm also very proud for the all too patient citizens of america who sent me here, along with many of my colleagues in 2006, to cast votes for the affordable health care for americans act. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: mr. speaker, at this time i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from michigan, mrs. miller. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from michigan is recognized for one minute. mrs. miller: mr. speaker, during the past year, the democratic majority has passed so many bills that have done absolutely nothing to help our economy. instead, they raised taxes, they exploded the deficit and they've actually killed off jobs and yesterday the national unemployment rate went up past 10%, actually 10.2% with no end in sight. so it's incredible that today this house may pass a job-killing, tax-hiking, government takeover of our
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health care. and one of the most disingenuous things that have been said, if you like your current health care that you can keep it. well, not so fast. in my county, mccome county, michigan, the chamber of commerce did a survey of all of mayor members and they asked if rather than continuing to provide good health care plans for their employees they would instead take the 8% penalty that is included in this bill. and guess what, no surprise, the overwhelming majority said they would, of course, dump their employees out into the public plan. mr. speaker, we are going to have a complete government takeover of our health care system faster than you can say this is making me sick. vote no. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from michigan's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his time and has eight minutes remaining. the gentleman from new york is recognized and has 14 minutes remaining. mr. rangel: i'd like to yield
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to the chairman of the congressional black caucus for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized for one minute. ms. lee: thank you very much. mr. speaker, on behalf of the congressional black caucus i rise in strong support of this bill. no one has historically -- we understand that it's morally right to pass this today. i want to commend the gentleman from new york as well as our leadership and our speaker for bringing us to this point today. the strong public option in this bill will provide our constituents with the choice and competition they want. it will help improve equity and help eliminate health disparities and this bill recognizes that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. it will help people who choose to keep their private plans by limiting annual rate increases by insurance companies. today's historic vote is another step forward in our quest for social justice. it really is about life and death, but it's not the end of the process.
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the congressional black caucus will keep fighting until a final bill is on the president's desk. today, finally health care will become a basic human rights for all rather than a privilege of the few. we have all been called for a time such as this. let us rise to the occasion and vote yes for affordable health care. the speaker pro tempore: jealts. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from oklahoma, one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from oklahoma is recognized for one minute. ms. fallin: mr. speaker, the american people understand the need for health care reform. they just don't want socialized medicine. they don't want the federal government taking over our health care decisions, taking away our freedom of choice about health care. they don't want more federal deficit spending on the backs of our children and future generations of our children. and they don't want more taxes upon small business, especially in this recession.
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they don't like the federal government taking away our freedoms guaranteed under this constitution. and they don't like the federal government interfering in our states' rights. they don't want unfunded mandates upon the states and they don't want funded government -- government-funded taxpayer abortions upon our families. mr. speaker, men and women have fought for freedoms for this nation for generations, but this health care bill will change the face of our nation and put our nation on a trajectory of a federal government takeover so many areas of our freedoms and our lives. let's reject this health care bill and let's start all over and pass real meaningful health care reform. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from oklahoma yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: i'd like to yield one minute to the gentlelady from new york, congresswoman velazquez. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york is recognized for one minute. ms. velazquez: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. velazquez: for too long,
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millions of americans have been absent of the medical treatment they need. right now millions of americans are trying to figure out how to find health care coverage if they lose their job. 14,000 of americans will lose their coverage and millions of our citizens, including one in every three hispanics, lack health insurance coverage. today, all that changes. this is the moment. no longer will insurance companies abandon americans when they most need help. this bill will end the practice of denying americans coverage because of pre-existing conditions. 36 million uninsured americans will finally have coverage. choice, competition and transparency will be brought to the insurance market meaning better care at lower costs. i say this to my colleagues, it
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has been too long. let us pass this bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from florida, mr. crenshaw. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized for one minute. mr. crenshaw: mr. speaker, a lot of the men and women i represent in northeast florida are members of the military. and we've been working for 15 years to make sure they have adequate health care. they deserve it. they defend us every day. and they ask me, how is this new democratic plan going to affect my tricare and my tricare for life? and the answer is, nobody really knows what this slippery slope with a public option is going to do to existing coverage. if you take this democratic plan, you see it's complicated 2,000 pages long, it's unproven, it's untested, it's filled with uncertainty. at the end of the day, this democratic plan is a dangerous
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experiment on the backs of the american people without their consent. and if this were the medical field, that would be unethical. it would be malpractice. there is a better way, mr. speaker. there is a better way. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. rangel: thank you. i'd like to yield to the gentlelady from michigan, congresswoman kilpatrick, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. ms. kilpatrick: mr. speaker, this is an historic day. competition, choice and peace of mind. i'd like to commend the speaker for her leadership and our chairman and our caucus for putting together a bill that will help american families. 36 million americans who do not now have insurance will be insured. your premium costs will go down. the quality of other insurance will be increased. no longer will insurance
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companies be able to examine and cut you off when you get ill. prescription drugs will be cheaper. the aarp supports this bill. medical doctors and nurses support this bill. the consumers union supports this bill. the u.a.w. supports this bill. it's a great historical day for our country. i predict it will be as we go forward as strong and as popular as social security, medicare and now a new national health care program. thank you. thank you, madam speaker. thank you, democrats, for standing strong. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from michigan's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: mr. speaker, at this time i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from west virginia, mrs. capito. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from west virginia is recognized for one minute. mrs. capito: thank you. mr. speaker, i rise today to voice the concerns of my
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constituents who believe the speaker's $1 trillion, 1,990-page bill is simply the wrong solution for west virginia families. the president said those that like their health care they can keep it. we know it's not true. it's simply not true for the 72,000 west virginians on medicare advantage who will see their program slashed under this plan. considering one of my elderly constituents from dunbar, west virginia, who called just today. she realized on the enhanced benefits of medicare advantage to cover rheumatoid diabetes, she suffered a stroke and is on more than a dozen prescriptions. she relies on these services and she fears that this bill will put them at risk. sadly, she is right. because this bill will change her health care. mr. speaker, we need health care reform, but we can do better than this. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from west virginia yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his
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time and has five minutes remaining. the gentleman from new york is recognized and has 11 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. rangel: thank you. i'd like to yield one minute of that to gregory meeks from the great state of new york. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. mr. meeks: thank you, mr. chairman. the camera of history is rolling. and i am so glad to play a part in it. because this as we create history in the 1930's with social security and in the 1960's with medicare, we will create history tonight in passing 3962. dr. king was asked the question, how long? well, because of 3962, how long before all americans have access to affordable and quality health care? not long. how long before we end discrimination for pre-existing conditions? not long. how long before we ensure that no americans fear of bankruptcy or financial ruin due to illness?
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not long. how long before we close the doughnut hole, helping all of our senior citizens? not long. how long before we begin to control the escalating prices of insurance and health care? not long. how long before all americans, all of us can have access to quality health care? not long. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: at this time, mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from virginia, mr. goodlatte. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia is recognized for one minute. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, what's in this 2,000-page monstrosity that's costing the taxpayers over $1 trillion in costs and we are going to see tax increases of $800 billion and $500 billion in cuts in medicare? well, take a look. prohibits the sale of private health insurance policies beginning in 2013 forcing individuals to purchase
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coverage through the federal government. on page 225, however, section 330 permits but does not require members of congress to enroll in government-run health care. page 122, section 233-a-3 requires the commissioner a new health insurance czar to issue guidance on best practices of plain language writing. this from the same people who wrote this 2,000-page health care bill. page 183, section 305-a, gives the commissioner to empower a list of appropriate entities like planned parenthood and acorn to have outreach about the bill's new program. oppose this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. rangel: mr. speaker, at this time i'd like to yield one minute to the distinguished dean of the congressional black caucus, the senior member of this great house of
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representatives and someone who has indicated his concerns about health care for many, many years ago, congressman conyers. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is recognized for one minute. mr. conyers: thank you, chairman rangel, and all of our colleagues that have supported single payer health care. 86 other members are now working to make sure that we get this bill passed. i single out my colleague, dennis kucinich, and mr. weiner, for their particularly effective work. but i want to say that this is the same battle that some people went through when we passed social security. which had the same naysayers, the same people when we passed medicare, same naysayers. same people when we passed medicaid, same naysayers. and now we're trying to reform health care today and what do we get?
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the same people saying no again. so i'm proud to bring all of the support that i can to make sure that this bill becomes law, that more people are covered and that pre-existing injuries no longer will be an excuse to get rid of people. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: at this time i yield one minute to the gentleman from georgia, mr. kingston. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one minute. mr. kingston: i thank the gentleman. madam speaker, what we have today is another pelosi plan for america. but let's remember the pelosi plan for jobs. an $8 billion stimulus plan that caused unemployment to go from 8.5% to over 10%. let's remember the pelosi plan for automobiles. cash for clunkers. a $3 billion program that even the democrats agreed did not work and it was killed after three weeks. the pelosi plan for fiscal discipline, $1.4 trillion debt this year, the highest in
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history. and let's not forget the pelosi plan for national security, dithering in afghanistan. now we have the pelosi plan for health care. it kills small businesses and jobs, it raises taxes, it raises premiums, it cuts medicare, it takes away your current health care coverage and spends $1 trillion. vote no on the pelosi plan for a government takeover of health care and join the bipartisan members of this congress who plan to do so and promote an alternative which is far better. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. rangel: thank you, madam speaker. i yield for the purposes of unanimous consent to faleomavaega, my friend from samoa. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from samoa is recognized for one minute. mr. faleomavaega: madam speaker, god is good, i ask unanimous consent that my statement be
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made part of the record in full support for health care for all our fellow americans. god bless america. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. faleomavaega: i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. rangel: i yield to myself such time as i may consume. how much time is remaining? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york has 9 1/2 minutes remaining. and the gentleman from michigan has three minutes remaining. mr. rangel: i yield to myself two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. rangel: well, this is it for the members on the ways and means committee and others that have come in such outstanding leadership to be a part of history. it's unfortunate that we were unable to create an atmosphere of bipartisanship because certainly the 40 million people without health insurance, we can't distinguish between those who are republicans and those who are democrats. clearly we had enough
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information of the number of people that were in the congressional district, all of our congressional districts, that had no insurance at all. i am more than certain that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle have heard the very same stories we have. people who thought they were insured and they were not. people who wanted insurance and they boo not insure them because they -- and they would not insure them because they had some other condition. other people work hard every day of their life and aren't given insurance and they can't afford to buy it. this isn't the pelosi plan. this is a plan for all of america and to make us proud to know that our country is concerned about us and our children and our grandchildren and, yes, the american medical association, aarp and everyone's throwing papers around. but this is the national groups that have asked america and this congress to step up and fulfill our responsibility and it's not
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just for our constituents. it's for our great country. to have her as strong as she can be, to be able to know that we can compete with any other nation, no matter what part of the world that we're on. and that our work force will not only be educated and touted in order to compete but we will be healthy. every industrialized country takes care of their people. it's not a political thing. it's certainly here, it's not a republican or democratic thing, it's, are we going to be healthy, are we going to be strong, are we going to be certain a that when you count america, you count among the healthy? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. does the gentleman reserve? mr. rangel: i reserve the balance of my time. at this time i want to bring to the floor an outstanding member of congress who is the subcommittee chair on the education and labor committee. as you know, three committees
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had just, education and labor had jurisdiction, we had three chairman, but we had three subcommittee chairman who has been outstanding, he's been a friend of those without insurance, a friend of those who look forward to this bill being passed and it's with great distinction that i yield whatever time is left to the gentleman from new jersey. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yieldses the balance of his time to the gentleman from new jersey. without objection, the gentleman from new jersey will control that time. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: thank you, madam speaker. at this time i yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. gohmert. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. gohmert: thank you, madam speaker. you know, this is well intended but you read section 501 and it basically says if you make too much to get free health care but
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you make too little to be able to buy it you're going to get taxed under this bill. it means well, it does damage. for those who have paid into medicare for 40 years or so, who expected to have it, they get cut hundreds of billions of dollars but illegals are going to get covered. come on now. in the 1960's they meant well with the great society but they offered a check for every child a woman could have out of wed lock meaning well, wanting to help them, but they lured them into a rut with no way out and they came to my court to be sentenced. we hurt people when we do the wrong things. the declaration of independence, founders pledged their live the, that are fortunes, their sacred honor. this is the declaration of dependence that pledges americans' lives and their fortunes and there is no honor in that. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized.
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mr. andrews: may i inquire how much time is left on the ways and means on this side? the speaker pro tempore: 7 1/2 minutes. mr. andrews: madam speaker, i yield myself three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. andrews: madam speaker, the people of the country and the members of the house deserve a vigorous debate. they also deserve an accurate record. and i think the time has come to begin to clarify and correct some of the series of assertions that have been made here that are simply not correct. there was an assertion made from the minority side a few minutes ago that no one knows what will happen to those who are on tricare. or veterans health benefits. the gentleman may not know, but we do. nothing will change for a person under tricare or veterans benefits if they do not wish to have it changed. there was a statement made on the other side that the bill will, quote, cover illegal aliens, closed quote. that is incorrect. there is no subsidy and there is no coverage for an undocumented
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person. there have been numerous statements made on the other side that there will be massive tax increases on the american people. here is the fact. the fact is that there is a surtax in this bill that helps to pay for coverage of uninsured people and for better quality care. it affects the top .3% of households in this country. if you're an individual and you make more than $500,000 a year adjusted gross income, if you're a couple and you make more than $1 million a year adjusted gross income, it affects you. the statement has been made repeatedly, the bill will add to the deficit. that's not the truth, that's not what the congressional budget office says. they say the contrary. they say that the net effect of this bill is it will reduce the deficit in the first 10 years by in excess of $100 billion and
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that in the second 10 years the bill will reduce the deficit by somewhere in the neighborhood of .25% of g.d.p. the statement has been repeatedly made that it is a crime not to have health insurance. here's the accurate statement. because there is a penalty imposed on individuals who don't meet the individual mandate, and by the way that individual mandate has with it very generous subsidies and it has a hardship exemmingts, but it has been said that -- exemmingts, but it has said it's a crime not to have health care. that's not accurate. it's a crime to willingfully evade taxation just as it is with every other tax. it is said that this is a government takeover of health care. that is false. this is a consumer takeover of health care. and those who would be thal point gist for the insurance industry don't like that. the american people do and will. i reserve the balance of my
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time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: at this time, madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent to place in the record a letter from the joint committee on taxation which on page 3 indicates that both misdemeanor and prison penalties up to five years will be imposed. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. camp: at this time i yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. poe. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. poe: thank you, madam speaker. in my prior life i was a judge for 22 years. i tried only criminal cases and you read this bill, it forces everyone that can to buy insurance whether they want to or not. if they don't, they're taxed. but that tax is really a fine. be that as it may, if they don't pay the fine they're in violation of the i.r.s. code and they can pay another $250,000 fine and go to a federal penitentiary for five years. that is government oppression of
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the people, forcing them to buy insurance whether they want to or not. that is repressive government control and that's the way that i see it. if they don't submit they are forced to go to jail. you know, this bill is about government control. it's not about choice. it's oppression, it's not about liberty. you know, the constitution starts out, we the people. if this bill passes, especially this section, let's scratch out we the people and write in the phrase, we the subjects of big government. and that's just the way it is. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. andrews: madam speaker, i'm pleased at this time to yield 90 seconds to the gentlelady from ohio whose one of the authors of the small business provisions in the bill, ms. fudge, 90 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from ohio is recognized for one minute. ms. fudge: thank you very much, madam speaker. you know, there comes a time, madam speaker, when we must
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choose that which benefits the greater good or look for selfish reasons to support the status quo. now is that time and i choose the greater good. when i go home, madam speaker, i will be able to say that i was asked to make health care more affordable and i said yes. this bill makes health care affordable for 36 million more americans by ensuring that working class citizens will never have to pay more than 12% of their income on health care premiums. and that people whose incomes are 400% of poverty or less will receive their premiums in the form of subsidies. more than 163,000 households in my district alone will benefit from these subsidies. when asked to increase access to care, i said yes. yes to the people of america who will no longer worry about being denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions. yes to the people of america whose families can now have regular checkups and free preventive care. madam speaker, i said yes to
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those who for the first time will have a family doctor instead of using the emergency room for routine matters. when asked to help the laid off worker, the small business owner, the working poor and those to can't make ends meet in this very struggling economy, i said yes. when asked to ensure that those who have health care today but may be dropped tomorrow are taken care of, i said yes. when asked to exhibit the courage needed to fight for change, i said yes. when the history of the 111th congress is written, i choose to be in that number that said yes to the people of america. thank you, madam speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan is recognized -- the gentleman from new jersey reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. camp: i yield one minute to mr. rohrabacher backer. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. mr. rohrabacher: this attempt at sliding americans into dependence on a government controlled health care system
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brings bait and switch to a new low. we have heard about the flaws in our current health care system, high cost, lack of portability, lose a job, lose insurance, discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions. yes, many of the heartwrenching stories we are hearing to justify this legislation are real. but correcting those maladies by requiring -- it only requires specific reform, it does not require transforming health care in america into a bureaucratically managed health care system that will cost hundreds of billions of dollars more including billions to provide health care for illegal aliens while at the same time cutting medicare by hundreds of billions of dollars. this so-called reform will destroy the freedom of the american people to make health decisions with their doctor and the doctor of their choice. it will transform our system rather than reform it and what we will end up with is a system that is massively more expensive, less effective and will be based on government
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controls and regulations -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the time of the gentleman from michigan has expired. the gentleman from new jersey has three minutes -- 3 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. andrews: gentlelady, who is a nurse, has made a great contribution, the gentlewoman from new york, mrs. mccarthy, is recognized for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from new york is recognized for two minutes. mrs. mccarthy: i thank my colleague, were andrews, and i'd like to thank george miller for working with us. you know, we have known for years that we have a shortage of doctors, especially primary care doctors. we have a shortage of nurses, and this bill is going to help that. you know, when we talk about and i hear so many charges coming from the other side, i say, where have i been for months sitting through the committees and heard what we were doing? i want to say that with the education and labor committee, the nurse training and
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retention act for the students in nursing schools is in this bill, h.r. 3962. it will provide grants so we can have more new nurses, but to have more new nurses we have to have those who are educated. we can have that in this bill too. i also want to say that the years i have been fighting with the insurance companies to make sure that children that are born with disfigments on their face so they can have corrections, so for long term they won't have scars. in this bill we are going to be able to say the plastic surgeons are going to be able to work on these children. think about a child that is born without an ear, the insurance company say that's cosmetic. that's not cosmetic. the ear is actually part of the body so he can actually hear
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better, but the scars, emotional scars that happen to the children that are born with these deformities, that is wrong. if we can't take care of our children in this country, if we can't make sure our seniors on medicare get the kind of care that they need, i don't tell you -- i just went through surgery and i went to get my prescription filled. and my pharmacist said to me how lucky you don't have to pay more for your prescriptions until january 1. why? because i have the health care from the federal government. we can do better and we should. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from minnesota controls 40 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from minnesota.
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mr. kline: thank you, madam speaker. i'll yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. kline: i thank the speaker. we have before us today more than 2,000 pages of legislative text that will give us public policy that will cost more than $1 trillion and creates a huge mores a of government bureaucracies. over 100 new offices, programs. let's look at briefly at one of these new offices. the democrats have a new superbureaucrat over personal health care decisions, the health choices commissioner. heading up the orwellian health choices administration. in the short time that we've had since this legislation was made public, we've combed these pages in the first part of
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these 2,000 pages to see if we can get a picture of the responsibilities, authorities and powers that were granted to this individual. as you can see, madam speaker, we actually had to go back to the supply store to get enough of these tabs. this superbureaucrat, this health choices commissioner turns out will have powers to define, deny, deem, determine, assess, administer and establish our health care benefits for all americans. it is no wonder that millions of americans are afraid of a government takeover of our health care. how can they not fear such a thing? this is unprecedented. this amount of power granted to one bureaucrat and, of course,
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there are other bureaucrats in this bill. i don't believe that this bill should see the light of day. it certainly should not pass. it's a recipe for job losses. it's a clear power grab by washington bureaucrats. it's a power grab. we ought to discard it altogether, press the reset button, start over. we can do better. the american people deserve better. let's vote no on this power grab by washington bureaucrats. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from minnesota reserves. the gentleman from new jersey has 1 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. andrews: thank you, madam speaker. at this time i'd like to yield to a gentleman who offered a very key provision about saving money through medical records technology, the gentleman from oregon, mr. wu, for 1 1/2 minutes.
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mr. wu: i thank the gentleman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized for 1 1/2 minutes. mr. wu: thank you, madam speaker. i rise today in strong support of health insurance reform. in 20, 40, 60 years this legislation will stand besides social security, the g.i. bill and medicare as a pillar of american health care and humane values. the bill creates a new health insurance exchange or marketplace to expand access and provide people with a menu of quality health insurance options so that they can choose a plan that best meets their own needs. the bill will create affordability credits to ensure that all americans have more affordable health care coverage. the bill will set a yearly limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses because no one should go broke because you get sick. in short, what health insurance
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reform means for americans is more security and stability. americans should not have to wait any longer for these reforms. we've been waiting since theodore roosevelt. we've been waiting since franklin roosevelt. we've been waiting since harry truman. we've been waiting since lyndon johnson. we've been waiting since jimmy carter. we've been waiting since bill clinton. it's time to stop the waiting and it is time to act. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the time of the gentleman from new jersey has expired. the gentleman yields. the gentleman from minnesota is recognized. mr. kline: thank you, madam speaker. i yield for purpose of an unanimous consent question to the gentleman from california, mr. lewis. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. lewis: i thank the speaker. i rise to oppose h.r. 3962 and ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. kline: i reserve the
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balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from minnesota reserves. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized for 40 minutes. mr. andrews: thank you, madam speaker. at this time it's my honor to yield to a person who spends a distinguished -- spent a distinguished career in this house fighting for this day, who is one of the principal authors of this bill, the leader of the committee, the chairman of the committee on education and labor, george miller, four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for four minutes. mr. miller: i thank the gentleman for yielding, and i thank him so much for his contribution to this legislation to the debate in this house and to the role he's played in informing our members and the public about this bill. i want to begin by giving thanks, madam speaker, particularly on my committee, i want to thank the staff that's worked so terribly hard, shannon, megan, jody, aaron, meredith, rachel, who've all supported this tremendous team and professional staff of the committee on ways and means and
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energy and commerce and certainly to my colleagues, chairman rangel and chairman waxman. to our subcommittee chairs, mr. andrews, mr. pallone and mr. stark. it has truly been an honor to be involved in this debate and to sit in the same room with the dean of our house, john dingell, and to be able to craft this legislation. it's an honor i will remember the rest of my life. i thank the democratic leadership for giving us the space to bring president obama's bill to this house so that we can pass it and we can change america. and i certainly want to thank speaker pelosi. without her leadership, her tenacity, her passion we would simply not be here today. we are about to make history. and the reason we are about to make history is because many of us have so much confidence in the very great things that america is capable of achieving. america has been challenged throughout its history to achieve great things. on behalf of americans, on
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behalf of the world community, we have risen to that challenge. but throughout that history, one challenge has eluded us, the challenge to come and to finally provide access to affordable health care for all of our citizens, for all americans, to provide them the kind of security that they would know with this legislation, to provide them the understanding that never again will they live in fear that they will be without health care. for whatever circumstance takes prays in their life. and for every member of the chamber on both sides of the aisle have encountered our citizens throughout the years as they told us terrible stories, dramatic stories, painful stories, sad stories about how their family has been crushed or their friends or their neighbors, people they care about, that they work with, by circumstances beyond their control. how when one circumstance leads
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to another, how in america today when the layoff notice comes you also are on notice that you will lose your insurance. your world is turned upside down immediately. you struggle to find employment or retraining. you struggle to refigure your family's finances and you know if your children are sick they won't be able to go to the doctor, you won't be able to afford it. if your spouse is in the middle of treatment, that treatment can be curtailed no matter what the illness, no matter how serious it is, no matter how important the treatment is. it can go in a flash. we cannot continue to ask american families to continue to live on that edge of uncertainty, of insecurity, of a possibility of fiscal ruin. a small event because of the lack of health care can explode into the life of a family, into the life of a community when it
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happens over and over and over again. but this legislation says that's not going to happen again in our future. we're going to become the architects and the builders of a system that will provide care to these people, will provide services to these people, will provide security for these people so that these american families can go to work with confidence, they can buy a home with confidence, they can think about their kids' education with confidence and, no, it will not all be wiped out in a flash because their insurance was canceled, the cap was placed on out-of-pocket expenses. mr. andrews: i yield the gentleman one minute. mr. miller: i thank the gentleman. that's what this legislation is about. we can all about all of the internal merits and the back and forth. but at the end of the day for the first time in our history we deliver to all americans the security that their family will
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have an opportunity to continue on a stable financial track and that they can make the kinds of plans that we want to make for our children, our grandchildren , that their neighbors might be able to make but because of the absence of this policy, but because of the absence of a comprehensive health care bill that provides universal access, because of the failure of a bill that will help families to help struggling families to meet premiums, because of that failure, as "the wall street journal" said, we pay a huge price of innovation because people know they will be penalized if they start a new business, if they take a new idea and try to take it to fruition, if they switch jobs for better opportunities, maybe career-wise doesn't have insurance, that they want to work for a startup -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. miller: let's give america for thrs

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